tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4464222071440015933.post6707875016254684733..comments2024-01-23T17:14:04.067-05:00Comments on Jaltcoh: Live-blogging CNN's Las Vegas Republican presidential debateJohn Althouse Cohenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11703450281424023177noreply@blogger.comBlogger32125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4464222071440015933.post-29473020073154623552011-10-19T08:27:02.872-04:002011-10-19T08:27:02.872-04:00Blade, they're still paying state and federal ...Blade, they're still paying state and federal taxes.John Althouse Cohenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11703450281424023177noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4464222071440015933.post-3843228464989376932011-10-19T06:08:41.698-04:002011-10-19T06:08:41.698-04:00Liked the liveblog but at 8:24 you stated that eve...Liked the liveblog but at 8:24 you stated that everyone pays taxes, true but not true. The lowest quintile pays an effective negative tax rate due to things like the EITC. If you count all government spending on the lowest quintile they receive ~$8 in benefits from each $1 in taxes. http://www.taxfoundation.org/publications/show/2286.htmlBladeDochttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12558231321091452958noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4464222071440015933.post-6271324769837723762011-10-19T05:27:00.117-04:002011-10-19T05:27:00.117-04:00Palin says Gingrich won.Palin <a href="http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/10/18/palin_newt_did_well_in_vegas_could_beat_obama_in_a_debate.html" rel="nofollow">says Gingrich won</a>.Jason (the commenter)https://www.blogger.com/profile/16045360562791361484noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4464222071440015933.post-3402854215735906942011-10-19T01:46:10.514-04:002011-10-19T01:46:10.514-04:00Engineers solve problems for a living, too, for on...Engineers solve problems for a living, too, for one example. So?rcommalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00301180339680504471noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4464222071440015933.post-53785456920709981702011-10-18T23:46:24.943-04:002011-10-18T23:46:24.943-04:001/2 of SC primary voters thought McCain was agains...1/2 of SC primary voters thought McCain was against Amnesty and "very against" illegal immigration.rcoceanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17102201338319611538noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4464222071440015933.post-61705987025023767012011-10-18T23:44:44.087-04:002011-10-18T23:44:44.087-04:00Pull a McCain:
Act like you haven't supported...Pull a McCain:<br /><br />Act like you haven't supported Amnesty with Ted Kennedy for 4 years or opposed any border security.<br /><br />Instead, just say, "Build the dang fence" and say you've changed your mind on illegal immigration.rcoceanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17102201338319611538noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4464222071440015933.post-37419773928788722412011-10-18T23:42:06.796-04:002011-10-18T23:42:06.796-04:00And I hate Romney but understand that Republicans ...<i>And I hate Romney but understand that Republicans are drawn to his type like moth to a flame.</i><br /><br />There isn't much to choose from. Gingrich, Bachmann and Santorum have beclowned themselves into oblivion and nobody ever cared that Johnson or Huntsman were running in the first place. That leaves Cain, Perry, Paul, and Romney; Paul's a little too weird for most voters, and Cain and Perry keep making mis-steps. Romney seems about as authentic as Velveeta, but he's managing to say the right things and not screw up. So far.Revenanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11374515200055384226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4464222071440015933.post-43228941070994648532011-10-18T23:35:25.446-04:002011-10-18T23:35:25.446-04:00All Perry had to do was pull a McCain,
What do yo...<i>All Perry had to do was pull a McCain,</i><br /><br />What do you mean?John Althouse Cohenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11703450281424023177noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4464222071440015933.post-66161243604213026482011-10-18T22:58:42.970-04:002011-10-18T22:58:42.970-04:00Typical Jonah. Yeah, its all about who's likab...Typical Jonah. Yeah, its all about who's likable. Goldberg shows again was he's a lame conservative pundit.<br /><br />This debate was very reveling. First, Perry is complete Political idiot. He tried to help himself on illegal immigration by attacking Romney with a very old, silly, story about hiring illegals. All Perry had to do was pull a McCain, but he was too stupid to do that.<br /><br />Romney as usual was the debate winner. He was attacked and responded well. And I hate Romney but understand that Republicans are drawn to his type like moth to a flame.rcoceanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17102201338319611538noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4464222071440015933.post-46750012261588769612011-10-18T22:52:45.749-04:002011-10-18T22:52:45.749-04:00No john H? I guess 1% of Republicans and 90% of th...No john H? I guess 1% of Republicans and 90% of the media really missed him.rcoceanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17102201338319611538noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4464222071440015933.post-42394842711309534612011-10-18T22:31:14.153-04:002011-10-18T22:31:14.153-04:00Now, here's the moment this debate will be rem...<i>Now, here's the moment this debate will be remembered for:<br /><br /></i>Are you kidding me? The entire evening was a roller coaster. I'd buy the whole thing on DVD!<br /><br />And to think, Evil Blogger Lady missed it.Jason (the commenter)https://www.blogger.com/profile/16045360562791361484noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4464222071440015933.post-6716270525094730162011-10-18T21:57:41.340-04:002011-10-18T21:57:41.340-04:00I think Perry is finished, but Romney can't af...I think Perry is finished, but Romney can't afford another debate like that.Jason (the commenter)https://www.blogger.com/profile/16045360562791361484noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4464222071440015933.post-41590736776625682772011-10-18T21:42:26.005-04:002011-10-18T21:42:26.005-04:00He emphasizes that this includes Israel.
Yes, it ...<i>He emphasizes that this includes Israel.<br /><br /></i>Yes, it makes them weak according to him.Jason (the commenter)https://www.blogger.com/profile/16045360562791361484noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4464222071440015933.post-67589349934400980332011-10-18T21:31:16.586-04:002011-10-18T21:31:16.586-04:00Newt said, "I'm a hawk, but I'm a che...Newt said, "I'm a hawk, but I'm a cheap hawk." He may have just won my vote.Jason (the commenter)https://www.blogger.com/profile/16045360562791361484noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4464222071440015933.post-56864758093682210912011-10-18T21:19:45.003-04:002011-10-18T21:19:45.003-04:00Ron Paul: "Cain is blaming the victims."...<i>Ron Paul: "Cain is blaming the victims."<br /><br /></i>As far as I can tell, Ron Paul backs the protesters. <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/bxgd/6247215777/" rel="nofollow">His supporters show up at their rallies</a>. And yet Obama is the only one who gets blamed for pandering to them.<br /><br />I've never seen a pro-Obama sign at one of them.Jason (the commenter)https://www.blogger.com/profile/16045360562791361484noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4464222071440015933.post-78186577217043361202011-10-18T21:11:16.541-04:002011-10-18T21:11:16.541-04:00I'm not gonna watch it now because I can't...I'm not gonna watch it now because I can't watch two things at once, but this seems to be it:<br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvoSDiRMZPE<br /><br />And here's Romney getting mad at Perry: <br /><br />http://tv.breitbart.com/romney-perry-at-each-others-throats-over-health-care-immigration/Chris Althouse Cohenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16417474428725474616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4464222071440015933.post-67961478671169377682011-10-18T21:02:44.443-04:002011-10-18T21:02:44.443-04:00BTW Huntsman is boycotting this debate as a protes...<i>BTW Huntsman is boycotting this debate as a protest to Nevada apparently saying they might break the rules and vote early.</i><br /><br />Well, he sure showed them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4464222071440015933.post-32961035663870557752011-10-18T21:01:08.378-04:002011-10-18T21:01:08.378-04:00There's so much going on. We may have to re-wa...There's so much going on. We may have to re-watch it in slow motion.Jason (the commenter)https://www.blogger.com/profile/16045360562791361484noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4464222071440015933.post-47099118987163752372011-10-18T20:58:50.566-04:002011-10-18T20:58:50.566-04:00What I heard, and my peeps on Twitter heard, was t...<i>What I heard, and my peeps on Twitter heard, was that Santorum said it.</i><br /><br />Ah. Thanks. I'll edit my post to correct this.John Althouse Cohenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11703450281424023177noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4464222071440015933.post-71315919759765683892011-10-18T20:58:15.730-04:002011-10-18T20:58:15.730-04:00Santorum seemed like he was watching the lights th...Santorum seemed like he was watching the lights that show their time and called time before even Anderson Cooper did so.Chris Althouse Cohenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16417474428725474616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4464222071440015933.post-18137003798628956162011-10-18T20:56:05.678-04:002011-10-18T20:56:05.678-04:00JAC: If it was Santorum who said it, that's em...JAC: <i>If it was Santorum who said it, that's embarrassing.<br /><br /></i>What I heard, and my peeps on Twitter heard, was that Santorum said it.<br /><br />I don't know how many people will be around for the next debate.Jason (the commenter)https://www.blogger.com/profile/16045360562791361484noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4464222071440015933.post-47209248954262322142011-10-18T20:55:45.392-04:002011-10-18T20:55:45.392-04:00Santorum said it first, he yelled, "You'r...Santorum said it first, he yelled, "You're outta time!" or something like that. And then afterwards, Romney said to Cooper that it seemed like he was out of time when he was being talked over during his time.Chris Althouse Cohenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16417474428725474616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4464222071440015933.post-47290023625785658542011-10-18T20:54:58.154-04:002011-10-18T20:54:58.154-04:00BTW Huntsman is boycotting this debate as a protes...BTW Huntsman is boycotting this debate as a protest to Nevada apparently saying they might break the rules and vote early.Chris Althouse Cohenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16417474428725474616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4464222071440015933.post-68314126308367626652011-10-18T20:51:30.076-04:002011-10-18T20:51:30.076-04:00Chris, I agree Santorum was very off-putting, but ...Chris, I agree Santorum was very off-putting, but I thought Romney said he's out of time (which is what I said in the post). I may be wrong. If it was Santorum who said it, that's embarrassing.John Althouse Cohenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11703450281424023177noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4464222071440015933.post-50998061296006244862011-10-18T20:47:31.291-04:002011-10-18T20:47:31.291-04:00Wow, I've never seen Mitt Romney as angry as h...Wow, I've never seen Mitt Romney as angry as he got at Rick Perry just now (over being interrupted). He physically put his hand on Perry, which is extremely unusual.<br /><br />I've also never seen anyone in a debate as personally off-putting as Rick Santorum when he told Romney he was out of time after yelling over him for 20-30 seconds.Chris Althouse Cohenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16417474428725474616noreply@blogger.com