tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4464222071440015933.post6483683316146050530..comments2024-01-23T17:14:04.067-05:00Comments on Jaltcoh: Live-blogging the "town hall" presidential debateJohn Althouse Cohenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11703450281424023177noreply@blogger.comBlogger36125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4464222071440015933.post-4443779641793666022012-10-17T13:45:13.171-04:002012-10-17T13:45:13.171-04:00RE - the "other agency involved at the compou...RE - the "other agency involved at the compound." <br /><br />http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/dana-milbank-letting-us-in-on-a-secret/2012/10/10/ba3136ca-132b-11e2-ba83-a7a396e6b2a7_story.html<br /><br />"In their questioning and in the public testimony they invited, the lawmakers managed to disclose, without ever mentioning Langley directly, that there was a seven-member “rapid response force” in the compound the State Department was calling an annex. One of the State Department security officials was forced to acknowledge that “not necessarily all of the security people” at the Benghazi compounds “fell under my direct operational control.”<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4464222071440015933.post-68664248002669620902012-10-17T08:40:57.618-04:002012-10-17T08:40:57.618-04:00I should like to note, at the time of this employm...I should like to note, at the time of this employment I was not a mom at the time. I was a student, working on my degree in a day program. <br /><br />And instead of preferential parental benefits, they just had flex-time benefits, akin to personal time. If you wanted to take the day off, because it was your birthday they didn't care. It was your time to choose how to utilize. Reneehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03852754398007790428noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4464222071440015933.post-74335433350914192782012-10-17T05:52:50.446-04:002012-10-17T05:52:50.446-04:00John,
No. Not at all. When this occurred for me,...John,<br /><br /><br />No. Not at all. When this occurred for me, there was no mandate from the government at all. <br /><br />I thought I made that clear in my first sentence. <i>"Over a decade ago, when the economy was in it's first boom/bust mode of 1999/2000, companies were very very flexible with professional woman."</i> I did not mention any government program or law. <br /><br /><br />They were flexible, because they didn't want to lose me. <b>I had negotiating power.</b> I could of also worked 70 hours a week, if I chose as well. <br /><br />From what I experiences and how I understood Romney's statement wasn't asking to impost a law of flexibility, rather the ability to negotiate terms of employment and having options of what type of work conditions you choose come with a strong economy for a woman (or man, with children or not). <br /><br />People are stuck in jobs, they might wish to have due to the job market, just as much people are stuck in homes 'underwater' unable to move as well. Just as young adults are stuck in their parents home and stuck on their insurance plan. <br /><br />We all have little ability to negotiate. <br />Reneehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03852754398007790428noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4464222071440015933.post-86487863262547785942012-10-17T00:06:34.906-04:002012-10-17T00:06:34.906-04:00Regarding the 4% remarks. If. Yo take each stateme...Regarding the 4% remarks. If. Yo take each statement as a complete thought to a donor rather than as a paragraph making a single point the meaning is very different. From memory :<br />1) 47% will vote for Obama no matter what<br />2) 47% of taxpayers pay no taxes.<br />3) The President keeps telling people they are victims and only govt. can lift them up.<br /><br />OK maybe that 's my interpretation of what he was saying. All are correct as stand alone points. What I see /hear in Romney is a person who thinks about the facts and clears the emotion and verbiage (aka clutter) to organize the issues. IOW he thinks more like a Powerpoint presentation. Or in opera he thinks about the score before the libretto... After he has the facts he can use words to expand and explain. From the facts comes a future plan more likely to succeed.<br /><br />One more debate on Monday. Should be interesting.<br /><br />Andy Johnsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14947905683144231097noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4464222071440015933.post-11457797238626335612012-10-16T23:48:47.424-04:002012-10-16T23:48:47.424-04:00We were getting professional work, good pay, and o...<i> We were getting professional work, good pay, and only working 20-25 hours either 'mother hours' or evening so we were not wasting much on daycare.</i><br /><br />Are you suggesting that the government should mandate that people receive excellent pay for good jobs where they only have to work part time? If there were such a law, employers just wouldn't hire anyone to fill those roles.<br /><br /><i>Many women, and men, want to have children.</i><br /><br />People are still free to have children, but they're also adults who need to make tough choices about how to structure their lives. No one gets everything they want in life; there are always trade-offs. There's no way for government to guarantee that it will be easy to raise children while working in the labor force. You choose to spend your time doing one thing, you have less time for other things. Those choices should be made voluntarily, not imposed on people by government fiat.John Althouse Cohenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11703450281424023177noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4464222071440015933.post-34538281645303783362012-10-16T23:17:04.621-04:002012-10-16T23:17:04.621-04:00John - Love your bride's work, new to your sit...<i>John - Love your bride's work, new to your site. As for the use of the word "terror" that is not the same as calling an attack a pre-meditated terrorist attack. Just sayin'</i><br /><br />I've added more commentary on this at the end of the 10:15 post. (Also: I have a bride? Wha?)John Althouse Cohenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11703450281424023177noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4464222071440015933.post-85232184094513668632012-10-16T23:14:57.484-04:002012-10-16T23:14:57.484-04:00Oh, I've always thought caucuses are wildly un...Oh, I've always thought caucuses are wildly unfair. The unfairness of Romney getting to comment on "47%" in this debate is trivial by comparison.John Althouse Cohenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11703450281424023177noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4464222071440015933.post-45706498562838585402012-10-16T23:06:31.494-04:002012-10-16T23:06:31.494-04:00If you think it was "unfair" that Romney...If you think it was "unfair" that Romney didn't get to respond to the 47% issue, maybe you should remember what you said in response to the point I've raised many times that the caucus system in 2008 was unfair and undemocratic in many ways. What you said is (essentially) that Obama won because of superior strategizing within the system he was competing in, not because there was something unfair in that system. He just strategized better. And Obama strategized by not mentioning 47% until the very end of the debate, as a knock out punch against which Romney could not respond. He just had a superior strategy, and one thing you want in a president is superior strategy when going up against the enemy.Chris Althouse Cohenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16417474428725474616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4464222071440015933.post-69724408023822912302012-10-16T22:55:28.284-04:002012-10-16T22:55:28.284-04:00i listened to the video of the Rose Garden Morning...i listened to the video of the Rose Garden Morning(tired, can't think of the word-)speech- brief- announcement... anyway, he never said terror- even at the very end, it was an act- this act, or something. Listen to the video-- and i feel badly for Hillary- but, if extra security was asked for, and denied and then people died and more people(Obama)lied about it. That's not good.karennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4464222071440015933.post-86983150580414261192012-10-16T22:51:43.596-04:002012-10-16T22:51:43.596-04:00This is the White House transcript of the Rose Gar...This is the White House transcript of the Rose Garden statement<br /><br /><b>Statement by the President on the Attack in Benghazi</b><br /><br /><br /><i>I strongly condemn the outrageous attack on our diplomatic facility in Benghazi, which took the lives of four Americans, including Ambassador Chris Stevens. Right now, the American people have the families of those we lost in our thoughts and prayers. They exemplified America's commitment to freedom, justice, and partnership with nations and people around the globe, and stand in stark contrast to those who callously took their lives.<br /><br />I have directed my Administration to provide all necessary resources to support the security of our personnel in Libya, and to increase security at our diplomatic posts around the globe. While the United States rejects efforts to denigrate the religious beliefs of others, we must all unequivocally oppose the kind of senseless violence that took the lives of these public servants.<br /><br />On a personal note, Chris was a courageous and exemplary representative of the United States. Throughout the Libyan revolution, he selflessly served our country and the Libyan people at our mission in Benghazi. As Ambassador in Tripoli, he has supported Libya's transition to democracy. His legacy will endure wherever human beings reach for liberty and justice. I am profoundly grateful for his service to my Administration, and deeply saddened by this loss.<br /><br />The brave Americans we lost represent the extraordinary service and sacrifices that our civilians make every day around the globe. As we stand united with their families, let us now redouble our own efforts to carry their work forward.</i><br /><br />No "terror" here. I bet this os the one Romney read.eddie willershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04624004872700778288noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4464222071440015933.post-26797334976002320392012-10-16T22:45:43.937-04:002012-10-16T22:45:43.937-04:00@Jaltcoh: Thanks for your fair-minded approach. I ...@Jaltcoh: Thanks for your fair-minded approach. I sincerely hope I am not here for the next debate. I think 3 is my limit this election year. But, I hope you keep it up...q12345q6789https://www.blogger.com/profile/05153852362572869394noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4464222071440015933.post-41897726214642470272012-10-16T22:44:31.192-04:002012-10-16T22:44:31.192-04:00Platitudes, good Marxist platitudes
Platitudes, good Marxist platitudes<br />DADvocatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04621021178600799126noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4464222071440015933.post-51153599638907986642012-10-16T22:41:02.475-04:002012-10-16T22:41:02.475-04:00I think Romney means what he says and says what he...I think Romney means what he says and says what he means.<br /><br />The whole ~Yes, we can~ is what i think Romney is radiating. I'm a schmuck- but, i believe he is the guy that can pull us out of this.<br /><br />ps- Candy sucked.<br /><br />*Passionate summation- CBS is swooning over Obama, btw.karennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4464222071440015933.post-31030418885825756252012-10-16T22:39:55.575-04:002012-10-16T22:39:55.575-04:00Does Obama's Patient Protection and Affordable...Does Obama's Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act cover Dental? Because Obama sure got a lotta sweet Candy tonight!q12345q6789https://www.blogger.com/profile/05153852362572869394noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4464222071440015933.post-31341667905923042912012-10-16T22:36:35.636-04:002012-10-16T22:36:35.636-04:00John - Love your bride's work, new to your sit...John - Love your bride's work, new to your site. As for the use of the word "terror" that is not the same as calling an attack a pre-meditated terrorist attack. Just sayin'ctsheepdoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14974820349991529340noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4464222071440015933.post-43840933976275571772012-10-16T22:34:46.455-04:002012-10-16T22:34:46.455-04:00BTW, how was Candy Crowley certain of the actual u...BTW, how was Candy Crowley certain of the actual use of the word "terror" or "act of terror" by Obama in the Rose Garden? I know she had the questions in advance but did she really go to the transcripts so that she was certain enough to "correct" the GOP candidate. <br /><br />Makes me go hmmmmm......ctsheepdoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14974820349991529340noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4464222071440015933.post-8670539881809367212012-10-16T22:30:15.298-04:002012-10-16T22:30:15.298-04:00John - Love your bride's work, new to your sit...John - Love your bride's work, new to your site. As for the use of the word "terror" that is not the same as calling an attack a pre-meditated terrorist attack. Just sayin'ctsheepdoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14974820349991529340noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4464222071440015933.post-54918481363370280672012-10-16T22:26:57.620-04:002012-10-16T22:26:57.620-04:00Obama did not call it a terrorist attack in the Ro...Obama did not call it a terrorist attack in the Rose garden statement<br />see http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2012/09/12/statement-president-attack-benghaziwildswanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11975129877750876072noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4464222071440015933.post-91636229061378992372012-10-16T22:26:15.085-04:002012-10-16T22:26:15.085-04:00It is noteworthy that "act of terror" fo...It is noteworthy that "act of terror" followed reference to denigrating a religion, which I assume means the YouTube video. Mark Lindernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4464222071440015933.post-70327452080834657262012-10-16T22:18:37.102-04:002012-10-16T22:18:37.102-04:00So, impartial journalist moderator Candy Crowley a...So, impartial journalist moderator Candy Crowley asks for a follow up question, "Doesn't the Buck really stop with Sec. Clinton?" - another lay-up for and give full bravado speech for the old "Buck Stops Here" grandstanding.<br />Then tells Romney to hurry up with any response. <br /><br />Obama: I just wanna make sure all these folks get a chance to ask a question (i.e move along) <br />Candy: OK! Right.q12345q6789https://www.blogger.com/profile/05153852362572869394noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4464222071440015933.post-79022130072411128432012-10-16T22:17:16.657-04:002012-10-16T22:17:16.657-04:00Obama is lying.
Doesn't play politics.
Four o...Obama is lying.<br /><br />Doesn't play politics.<br />Four of our own.<br />Right.karennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4464222071440015933.post-18921681492409129482012-10-16T22:10:38.224-04:002012-10-16T22:10:38.224-04:00Closed barn doors and horses:0(.Closed barn doors and horses:0(.karennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4464222071440015933.post-56986876109514091002012-10-16T22:04:09.783-04:002012-10-16T22:04:09.783-04:00OMGawsh-- did our President just say that we need ...OMGawsh-- did our President just say that we need to go after the criminal, gang-banging illegals?<br /><br />EEeewww- that did not sound very... politically correct. He's lost me, here.karennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4464222071440015933.post-66811704408888362412012-10-16T22:01:38.157-04:002012-10-16T22:01:38.157-04:00"9:41 - Romney says we need to have "fle..."9:41 - Romney says we need to have "flexible schedules" to help women. How is it the job of the president to decide what job schedules people have?"<br /><br />Over a decade ago, when the economy was in it's first boom/bust mode of 1999/2000, companies were very very flexible with professional woman. We were getting professional work, good pay, and only working 20-25 hours either 'mother hours' or evening so we were not wasting much on daycare. Also more then willing to do a 4 day vs 5 day work week or working from home. <br /><br /><br />When there are 100 people applying for a job, there is little to none in negotiations. <br /><br />Many women, and men, want to have children. Even childless people have lives outside of work. Flexibility matters more then contraception coverage forced upon religious institutions. Reneehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03852754398007790428noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4464222071440015933.post-44020982344574077342012-10-16T22:00:39.921-04:002012-10-16T22:00:39.921-04:00Hi Karen!Hi Karen!ambahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12042450225428891273noreply@blogger.com