Saturday, January 26, 2019

"Respect your elders"?

Amid all the talk about how the Covington story was falsely reported and how the mob against those kids summed up everything wrong with social media, one point seems to have gotten lost: no matter what version of the facts we believed, it was always absurd to say, in response to seeing a Native American in his 60s, that the teenagers needed to "respect their elders." That phrase can be used to mean many different things, but I'd suggest that it's so problematic it should be replaced by clearer statements that don't rely on cliches.

We should not respect anyone based on what demographic group they belong to, whether it's age, ethnicity, or anything else. Each individual either does or doesn't deserve respect based on what they've specifically said or done. Just think how many of the people who said "respect your elders" after watching that video have the utmost disrespect for Donald Trump, who, as the 72-year-old leader of our country, is as much an "elder" as anyone. Of course, "respecting your elders" is an effective approach in many social situations. But the word "respect" can refer to either outward behavior or internal thoughts/feelings. If it means the latter, then no one believes you must genuinely respect all of your "elders" (whoever they are). Some of your "elders" are fundamentally at odds with each other, so to respect one of them would be to disrespect another. It's even been argued that teaching kids to "respect their elders" could lead them to accept being abused by adults.

There are valid arguments in favor of "respect your elders": that we should honor those who've come before us, who've struggled in ways we haven't, who've worked hard to make the world better, and who've gained wisdom over the years. As a general attitude toward older generations, that's fine — but that's not what people meant when they said "respect your elders" about the Native American man at that event. They seemed to mean that he as an individual must be respected at all times, but we can't know that from clicking on a short video someone recorded with their phone.

Ironically, it isn't respectful to leap to a positive judgment about someone based on their ethnicity. Is seeing a Native American of a certain age and immediately saying, "Respect your elders!" really that different from meeting someone who's Asian and quickly praising them for "speaking good English," or routinely mentioning that "some of my best friends are black" during any conversation about race? Those kinds of statements might sound positive on the surface, but it's well-known that they're insidiously patronizing. They treat people as ethnic placeholders instead of as fully formed individuals with unique strengths and weaknesses.

4 comments:

LittleDesertFlower said...

Re: your opinion of the whole "respect your elders" principle that some ppl preach...
(Not specifically attached to this Covington incident, because I've decided to reserve all judgement & stay out of this one entirely.. But jst as a general thing.)
...I must say "here here!" and "amen!" to that.
I could not agree more when you say:
"We should not respect anyone based on what demographic group they belong to, whether it's age, ethnicity, or anything else. Each individual either does or doesn't deserve respect based on what they've specifically said or done."

In my life I have encountered a number of "elders" who are/were absolutely deserving of respect.. And I have also encountered a number of "elders" who are/were pretty despicable humans that most definitely didn't deserve respect from anyone too. --- And that is why I've never subscribed to the premise that elders should jst automatically be treated as ppl deserving of respect as a rule.. Because its simply not always warranted.

I mean, it's kind of bizarre that there's this social rule that dictates such a thing when ya think about it.. Asserting that certain ppl ought to be shown respect simply because they've managed to live to an older age & havent died yet. ??!!??
Ya know?

Because, really 'not dying'& continuing to exist, in & of itself. Is like the bare minimum thing a person can do!
Also -- as I used to point out to ppl when explaining my feelings about this -- there are plenty of reprehensible ppl on death row who have lived to a ripe old age. (Used to use Charles Manson as a specific example in my schpeal, but he's dead now so doesnt work anymore.)


Again, I'm not making any specific reference or comment about the man involved in the Covington ordeal. I dont know him, & honestly have no opinion of him one way or the other. But I do think that telling someone to "respect their elders", or condemning someone for not automatically showing an elder respect on command, just doesnt seem logical or just to me.


Meade said...

Out: "Honor thy father and thy mother"

Out: "Respect your elders"

In: "How can I avoid litigation for violating elder abuse statutes in my state?"

Anonymous said...

"Respect your elders" is an overbroad statement about manners. Being well mannered requires that UNTIL PROVEN OTHERWISE, people above (in deserts, or below in assumed ability) us in the particular hierarchy of interaction with strangers deserve deference. The hierarchy includes multiple factors and requires rounding in favor of the other - age, handicap and gender are always relevant, wealth and ethnicity are sometimes factors. Once a woman makes clear she'd rather a man didn't hold the door, he's free to let her hold the next one for him, or for each to use their own door. It's funny how equality is rarely achieved/expressed reciprocally instead of independently though.

Meade said...

“When I was a boy of fourteen, my father was so ignorant I could hardly stand to have the old man around. But when I got to be twenty-one, I was astonished at how much the old man had learned in seven years.”